Scroll through fitness TikTok or Instagram, and you’ll likely see two different stories about "knees over toes".
One will tell you that any forward knee movement past the toes is dangerous, and another will tell you the deep "knees over toes" squats and lunges are the optimal sign of leg strength and knee resilience.
So, who’s right? Is your first attempt going to risk injury, or is it a movement we’ve been told to fear but actually should be practicing?
At Renew Wellness, we don't believe in one-size-fits-all advice. Instead, we like to look at movement through the lens of individual capacity, control, and intent.
Keep reading, and break down the science and safety behind knees over toes.
Where Did The "Fear" Come From?
The "don't let your knees go past your toes" rule became a fitness mantra for good reason: it was a simplified cue for a complex goal. For many, especially beginners or those loading a barbell for the first time, it served as a way to:
- Encourage Hip Engagement: It pushes people to initiate movement with their hips and glutes, the body's powerful prime movers, rather than overloading the quads and knees.
- Reduce Shear Force: In a squat, when the torso remains more upright and the knees stay back, it can theoretically reduce anterior shear force on the knee. For individuals with existing patellar tendon issues or certain ligament sensitivities, this can be a useful short-term modification.
However, a well-intentioned cue turned into a dogmatic rule. The problem isn't the cue itself, but the blanket statement that the movement is inherently unsafe.
The Case for Knees Over Toes: It's Natural & Necessary
If you watch a toddler squat to pick up a toy, a rock climber reaching for a hold, or an athlete decelerating on a court, their knees travel forward. This is a fundamental human movement pattern.
From a biomechanical perspective, controlled knees-over-toes movement:
- Allows for Greater Ankle Dorsiflexion: It requires and builds mobility in the ankle, which is crucial for balance, agility, and lower-body health.
- Engages the Quadriceps Effectively: The forward knee position increases the moment arm for the quads, allowing them to contribute more force, which is essential for movements like jumping, sprinting, and climbing stairs.
- Enables Full Range of Motion: Restricting knee travel often compromises depth and a forward-leaning torso, which can place more strain on the lower back.
The key insight from modern sports science and rehabilitation is that tissues adapt to the stresses placed upon them. Gradually and progressively loading the knee in its full range of motion—including the knees-over-toes position—can build resilient tendons, stronger ligaments, and more robust cartilage.
The Safety Formula: It's About HOW, Not IF
The safety of knees-over-toes movements doesn't hinge on a simple yes or no. It depends on a formula:
Safety = Load + Range of Motion + Control + Individual History
- Progressive Load: Jumping into heavy-weighted, deep squats with significant knee travel if you’ve spent years avoiding them is a recipe for trouble. The load (your bodyweight, then external weight) must be introduced gradually to allow tissues to adapt.
- Earned Range of Motion: You must have the prerequisite ankle mobility (dorsiflexion) and hip mobility to achieve the position without compensation. Forcing the knee forward without these can strain other joints.
- Neuromuscular Control: This is the most critical factor. Can you move into and out of the position with stability, without the knee valgus (caving in) or shaking? Control is what separates a strengthening movement from a risky one.
- Individual Context: Someone with a history of patellofemoral pain may need a modified approach initially, while a healthy athlete may use it for performance gains. A recent versus a decade-old ACL reconstruction also changes the picture.
Practical Takeaways: Should You Do It?
For most healthy individuals looking to build resilient, functional legs:
- Yes, controlled knees-over-toes movement is not only safe but beneficial. Start with bodyweight movements like Spanish squats (using a band behind the knees), Poliquin step-ups (focusing on a slow, controlled descent), or tibialis raises (which strengthen the front shin and support the ankle).
- Focus on mastery before load. Perfect your form with bodyweight, then consider light weights like a kettlebell goblet squat before moving to a barbell.
- Listen to your body. Distinguish between the burn of muscle fatigue and sharp, joint-based pain. The former is acceptable; the latter is a sign to regress.
You should consider a more modified approach (keeping knees back) if:
- You are in acute pain during or after performing the movement.
- You are brand new to strength training and learning basic hip-dominant patterns.
- You are working under the guidance of a physiotherapist or coach for a specific injury where load management is the immediate priority.
The Bottom Line
The question isn't "Is knees over toes safe?" but "Is my body prepared for this version of knees over toes with this load today?"
Abandoning a fundamental movement pattern out of fear can lead to weakness in crucial ranges of motion. Blindly forcing it without preparation can lead to irritation. The best path is to reclaim the movement with respect, starting where you are, and progressing with control.
If you're unsure where your starting point is, or if past knee issues make you hesitant, a movement assessment can provide clarity. Understanding your unique mechanics is the first step toward training not just harder, but smarter.
